#237: Literary Lethality with Ian Brown

Hey, Scuttlebutt listeners. Thank you for joining us and for your continued support. This week, we bring another installment of our new series, Literary Lethality, to the scuttlebutt. In this series, we will be doing a deep dive into the Commandant’s Professional Reading List, exploring various titles and talking with authors about some of the books on the list. Today, we welcome Ian Brown back to the show. Ian has been on a few times, participating in our World of Wargaming series and is one of the most prolific advocates for the benefits of wargaming and robust military education. He is also the author of A New Conception of War: John Boyd, the U.S. Marines, and Maneuver Warfare and Snowmobiles and Grand Ideas: John Boyd’s Vision for Thriving in Chaos. Ian talks to us about A New Conception of War, the genesis of the project, and what it means to him to have his book on the Commandant’s Professional Reading List three years running. And more than anything, why A New Conception of War deserves to be on the Commandant’s Professional Reading List. 

Enjoy! 

linkedin.com/in/ian-brown-41b2bb94 

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Spouse Spotlight: Shelby Bateman

Shelby Bateman

USMC Spouse of 11 Years

Marine Corps Recruit Depot Parris Island, SC

Meet Shelby Bateman, a Marine Corps spouse stationed at Marine Corps Recruit Depot Parris Island, whose journey from supporting her husband to empowering military families is nothing short of inspiring. Through roles in Family Readiness, community advisory boards, and as the Beaufort Ambassador for Stronghold Food Pantry, she builds connections, advocates for families, and creates spaces where spouses feel seen and supported. Shelby’s leadership thrives on showing up, listening deeply, and encouraging others to step confidently into their own strengths. We’re proud to spotlight her resilience, servant heart, and meaningful impact across the military community. 


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Community and What Comes Next – Behind the Camouflage Season 5 | Episode 13

It’s the Season 5 finale of Behind the Camouflage and we’re closing out the season with a conversation from the BTC team!

In this finale, we share how we each build community as Marine Corps spouses, highlighting the different ways we connect, create relationships, and find our people throughout military life. This conversation reflects the many paths to building a sense of belonging.

We also talk about what’s currently happening with the BTC program and how it continues to grow. And of course, we couldn’t wrap up the season without giving you a sneak peek into what Season 6 has in store. Give a listen!

Hope For The Warriors to host free virtual career workshops for military community

First of Four Webinars kicks off Thursday, April 23

Geared for the military community, Hope For The Warriors will present a series of free, virtual career workshops with Robert Half, a talent solutions and business consulting firm.

The four-part series begins Thursday, April 23, at 11 a.m. EDT. Led by career coaches from Hope For The Warriors and Robert Half, the one-hour interactive workshops are designed for veterans, service members and military spouses navigating the civilian job market.

Participants will receive guidance on job-search skills, including resume development, interview preparation, networking strategies and exploring civilian career options during the transition from military service.

The following are the topics of the four-part series:

  • Thursday, April 23 – How to Ace the Interview (Without Sounding Scripted): Designed for first-time interviewees and those returning to the job market after an extended gap, this session focuses on confident communication and effective interview techniques.
  • Thursday, July 23  – National Hire a Veteran Day – Employer Spotlight Panel: Employers will discuss the skills they seek in veteran candidates, how veterans can stand out in a competitive job market, and common misconceptions — and how to overcome them.
  • Thursday, September 17 – Applicant Tracking Systems (ATS) – How to Get Seen: This workshop will explore why applications can disappear into the “black hole” and provide strategies for improving resume visibility within ATS platforms
  • Thursday, November 19 – Salary Negotiation & Compensation Confidence: Participants will learn how to discuss pay, understand market value, navigate civilian compensation structures and performance reviews and determine when and how to negotiate.

For the first 15 participants that attend any of the events for its entirety, Robert Half will provide 30-day access to its Percipio learning platform. Percipio features thousands of career development resources, including courses on resume writing, interview prep, leadership, Microsoft Office skills, and more. The goal of the self-guided program is to help users sharpen their skills and explore new interests to help take the next step in their career journey.

As a part of Hope For The Warriors’ Warrior’s Compass transition program, the free, virtual career workshop series provides training to help prepare those in the military landscape for a job search in today’s civilian climate. The workshops offer tools and tips, as well as opportunities to network with other service members, military spouses, and companies committed to hiring those with military backgrounds.

“Service members and veterans bring strong skills to the workforce, however the transition from military service to civilian employment can be challenging for some. These workshops are designed to make that process clearer and more accessible,” said Brian Papakie, director of transition services and life roles for Hope For The Warriors and a retired U.S. Marine.

To register for the free, virtual career workshops, visit hopeforthewarriors.org.

#236: Celebrating the Gazette’s 110th Anniversary

Hey, Scuttlebutt listeners. Thank you for joining us at the scuttlebutt. This week, the team comes together to form Voltron to recognize this month as the 110th anniversary of the Marine Corps Gazette being in continuous publication. It’s no small feat for any publication to continuously be in circulation for this long, especially in this digital age where literary works, particularly those in pulp, are in decline. But the significance of the Gazette goes beyond the dates. Nancy, William, and I talk about some of the significance, in particular the Gazette’s role in institutionalizing maneuver warfare.   

This is a wonderful milestone and it’s awesome that the Marine Corps Association continues to provide a forum for the presentation of ideas and professional discourse. Congratulations to the Gazette staff, past and present. 

Enjoy! 

Spouse Spotlight: Shannon Williams

Shannon Williams

USMC Spouse of 30 Years

Camp Lejeune, NC

Born in Annapolis, Maryland and raised in Jacksonville, North Carolina, this Marine Corps family’s story is deeply rooted in service, education, and community. After 15 years as a dedicated math educator in Onslow County Schools, she now serves military and civilian families as a Mortgage Loan Officer, helping make homeownership approachable and empowering. A lifelong advocate for service, she remains actively involved in organizations like Kiwanis, Rotary, the Camp Lejeune Leadership Seminar, and local military affairs efforts. Now entering a new season as an empty nester and proud grandmother, she continues to lead with integrity, heart, and a deep commitment to giving back. 


Do you have a Spouse you want to submit for a Spouse Spotlight?

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Starting Strong: School Transitions for Military Kids – Behind the Camouflage Season 5 | Episode 12

In this week’s episode of Behind the Camouflage, we sit down with Julie Fulton, School Liaison Officer at Camp Lejeune, to talk about one of the biggest transitions for military-connected children, Kindergarten!

With years of experience supporting military families and helping shape the School Liaison Program, Julie shares insight into why transitions—especially early ones like entering kindergarten—can be so impactful for both children and parents. We discuss the unique challenges military families face when it comes to education, frequent moves, and finding the right support systems along the way.

Julie also highlights how the School Liaison Office helps families feel more confident and prepared, offering resources, guidance, and connection during times that can often feel overwhelming.

Whether you’re preparing for your child’s first day of school or navigating yet another PCS, this conversation offers reassurance, perspective, and practical support for military families at every stage. Give a listen!

Spouse Spotlight: Sara Rizzo

Sara Rizzo

USMC Spouse of 15 Years

Okinawa, Japan

Meet Sara Rizzo, a Marine Corps spouse stationed in Okinawa, Japan whose nearly 15-year journey through military life has shaped her into a servant-leader and community champion. As the Director for Navy-Marine Corps Relief Society in Okinawa, Sara leads a passionate team that provides vital financial assistance and education to Sea Service families, while building inclusive, empowering networks of support. She’s also given her time to Family Readiness, Operation Homefront, The USO, and leadership seminars that help spouses embrace their strengths and step confidently into leadership roles. Sara’s dedication to service, both professionally and personally, reflects her belief that every military spouse is so much more than the “just” before “military spouse” and deserves recognition, opportunity, and support. 


Do you have a Spouse you want to submit for a Spouse Spotlight?

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#235: A Modern Veteran’s Iliad with Josh Cannon

Hey, Scuttlebutt listeners. Thank you for joining us and your continued support. This week, we welcome Josh Cannon to the scuttlebutt. Josh is a veteran Marine of OIF and the Director of Research for the Frederick Honors College at the University of Pittsburgh. He is also the author of Fatal Second Helen: A Modern Veteran’s Iliad, a book that overlays his experience in combat with the themes of the Iliad. This was a fascinating discussion about what it is that the narrative of the Iliad did for the ancient Greeks, and how it applies to us today, especially those who wear the uniform. We joke about the action heroes of the 80s and 90s and how fun those movies were, but how those stories are infamous for being shallow and for having one-dimensional characters. Josh helps us understand that this tradition is actually prevalent throughout history, with the Iliad in particular (a text written around the 8th century BC) as not only one of the oldest surviving literary works, but possibly the first recorded action story, as it is so similar to the action genre of the Schwarzenegger and Stallone films.    

Also, we want to recognize that March is the 110th anniversary of the Marine Corps Gazette being in continuous publication. A wonderful milestone and congratulations to the Gazette staff, past and present.   

Enjoy! 

veteransiliad.com 

From Service to Empowerment with Dr. Kendra Lowe – Behind the Camouflage Episode 11 | Season 5

In this week’s episode of Behind the Camouflage, we sit down with Dr. Kendra Lowe, Director of Military Spouse Programs at First Command, Air Force veteran, military spouse, and nationally recognized advocate for military families.

Dr. Lowe shares her journey of service — from in the camouflage, to behind the camouflage, and now into a role where she is actively supporting and inspiring military spouses across the workforce. We dive into the importance of military spouses in today’s workplace, the challenges they face, and what organizations can do to move beyond awareness and create meaningful, lasting change.

We also talk about balancing the many layers of military life — careers, transitions, and family — and Dr. Lowe offers practical, empowering advice for spouses navigating it all.

A special thank you to First Command for sponsoring the upcoming Modern Day Marine Spouse Summit on April 30th at the Washington Convention Center.

This episode is a powerful conversation on advocacy, opportunity, and the impact of investing in military spouses.

Give a listen!


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We Can Do Hard Things

The Arty Paty +1 recently released a new podcast called “Well, That Was Hard.”  We chatted about the kinds of hard things Marine Corps spouses go through all the time. The moves that go wrong. Trying to go back to work – or keep working. What it’s like to make new friends at new duty stations. The moments that are frustrating enough to laugh about later, but not always funny while we’re living them. 

The point of the podcast was pretty simple: We do hard things. 

Today I have been thinking about hard in a different way. 

Maybe it was fate or maybe it was the internet algorithms, but I came across a clip from Duke women’s basketball coach Kara Lawson where she talked about hard things in a way that stuck with me. She basically said that so many of us are waiting for things to get easier, when really, the goal is to become someone who handles hard better. 

Well, okay then. 

If I’m honest, I probably spend a lot of my life thinking that if I could just get through this one thing, then things would settle down. If I could just make it through this move, this season, this challenge, then maybe life would finally feel easier. 

But that is not really how it works. 

The hard stuff does not  go away. Sometimes it changes shape. Sometimes it lets up for a little while. Sometimes a new kind of hard stuff takes its place. But what I realized is that the real growth is not in waiting for life to get easier. It’s in becoming a person who can carry hard things better than she used to. 

I don’t mean that hard stuff stops being hard. I don’t mean I have some magical mindset where everything rolls off my back. I don’t mean I enjoy the hard parts or welcome them. I do not. 

But I can look back on my life and see that the things that once would have completely undone me don’t hit me the same way anymore. Not because life got softer, but because I got better at doing hard things. 

I think this life teaches that lesson whether we ask for it or not. 

There is always some version of hard. A goodbye. A move. A missed holiday. A changed plan. A season of loneliness. A season of uncertainty. A moment where you realize no one is coming to make it easier, and somehow, you have to figure out how to move through it anyway. 

And over time, I think that does something to a person. 

It builds grit. It builds perspective. It builds a kind of confidence that doesn’t come from having an easy life, but from knowing you have already done hard things before. 

I can do hard things. 

Not always gracefully. Not always with a great attitude. Not always without tears or frustration or a little bit of sarcasm. But I have done them. And when I look back, I can see that the greatest change was not always in my circumstances. The greatest change was in me. 

I handled it better than I used to. 

I’m not waiting for life to get easier. I’ll just try to handle hard better than I did the last time. 



Krista Ickles is the Program Coordinator for the Marine Corps Association’s Behind the Camouflage program, where she is dedicated to supporting and empowering Marine Corps spouses by fostering community connections and providing resources to enhance their personal and professional growth. In this role, she works to ensure that Marine Corps spouses have access to opportunities that strengthen their sense of belonging and engagement within the military community.

Throughout her journey, she has focused on advocacy, operations management, and military family support. Prior to her current role, she served as Operations Manager for AtEase, an online platform providing government-approved lodging for military families during PCS moves. Before that, she was theHeadquarters Lead Advocate for the USMC PCS Advocacy Council, where she worked to improve relocation experiences for Marine families by engaging with senior leadership and driving policy discussions.

In addition to her professional experience, Krista is a mother of four and has been a proud Marine Corps spouse for over 25 years. Her deep connection to the military community fuels her passion for advocating for military families, enhancing spouse networks, and building strong support systems.