The Siege of Khe Sanh Begins
January 24, 2012This Friday I took a few minutes out of my day to wish my friend Glenn Prentice a very happy birthday. Now I will be the very first to admit that I am TERRIBLE at remembering birthdays, but his always sticks in my mind….On 20 January 1968, he was serving with the India Company, 3d Battalion, 26th Marines on Hill 881S. He celebrated his 19th birthday while on a reconnaissance-in-force up Hill 881N. Said Prentice, “44 years ago we went up Hill 881N engaged the NVA---what a day! The start of Tet---I turned 19--thought I would never see my 20th Birthday---it was that bad…”

Sgt Glenn Prentice, at Khe Sanh Combat Base. (Photo courtesy of Glenn Prentice)
I have spoken several times on the siege of Khe Sanh Combat Base and the hill outposts. One of the questions I am most frequently asked is, “How did it all begin?”
The village of Khe Sanh was composed of nine separate hamlets that sat astride Route 9 in the northwest corner of South Vietnam. This was the nexus of movement from Laos into northern Quang Tri Province. Marines had initially carried out two battalion-sized operations near Khe Sanh in 1966.
By February 1967, elements of the 9th Marines moved into the area around Khe Sanh, to protect a detachment of Seabees whose mission was to extend and improve the airfield. Increased contact led to reinforcement of Khe Sanh with a second company. By April, the Marines had encounter strong North Vietnamese Army forces in fortified positions. Two battalions of the 3d Marines were committed to the area. In some of the bloodiest fighting of the war, which came to be known as “the Hill Fights,” the Marines gained control of the commanding terrain overlooking the combat base.
By October, the North Vietnamese 325C Division had once again moved into the area. Operation Scotland, the mission of defending Khe Sanh Combat Base, and using it as a base for offensive operations against NVA forces, became the responsibility of the 26th Marines. Said Col David E. Lownds, commanding the 26th Marines, “All indications are that we are going to get hit. How bad, I can’t say.”
In early December 1967, the 3d Battalion, 26th Marines moved to Khe Sanh and were briefed that the NVA was building up forces in the area. Ordered to sweep the area south and west of the base, the battalion moved from Lang Vei north and west to within 2 kilometers of the Laotian border. The Marines then swept northward, finally arriving back at Khe Sanh shortly before Christmas 1967. They made no contact with the NVA nor did they find any evidence of recent enemy presence in that area.
At this time, India Company, 3/26 was under the command of Captain Bill Dabney, a Canadian-born mustang who happened to be the son-in-law of Chesty Puller. Given the mission of occupying and defending 881S, Dabney’s Marines made an overland march from Khe Sanh to the hill. From 27 December through 17 January, India Company patrolled the area aggressively, sometimes to the limit of the range of the attached 81mm mortars (about 4000 meters).

Captain William Dabney (Photograph courtesy of David Powell)
In addition to these company-sized patrols in the area, recon teams were also patrolling. On 18 January, the Commanding officer of 3/26 informed India that recon team Dockleaf had been ambushed and had too many casualties to break contact and move to an LZ. India was ordered to send a force up 881N to locate Dockleaf and guide in the helos. India’s 3d platoon, led by 2dLt Thomas Brindley, was patrolling in the area so the mission was his. It was already mid-afternoon and Dockleaf had to be located before nightfall. Brindley and his men left flaks jackets and packs behind and made a forced march, almost a run, in an effort to find team the embattled recon team. The platoon was successful. Dockleaf was evacuated and Brindley’s platoon returned to 881S.
That night, however, India was informed that the recon team, while under very heavy enemy fire and subsequent evacuation, had lost a radio and some encoding sheets during the ambush. India was ordered to send another force north to recover them.

India Company’s position on Hill 881S, during the siege. To the right of center is Hill 881N, where NVA rocket, mortar and anti-aircraft sites were located. (Courtesy of David Powell)
At first light on the morning of 19 January, 1st Platoon, commanded by 2dLt Harry Fromme, left 881S, headed northward. About halfway to the crest of 881N, Fromme’s platoon made contact with a large NVA force moving south. Two Marines were wounded and another, machine gunner PFC Leonard Newton, was killed in the ensuing firefight. 2dLt Chuck Schneider later wrote to his parents and described the events. In this letter, although written almost a month later, the details of the action are riveting.
“We made point-to-point contact with an NVA patrol. Our patrol was moving in column (the thick vegetation made it the best for travel), the elephant grass was head high and therefore, since they were on the higher ground, they were able to see us before we saw them There was a sudden burst of automatic fire and two of our men fell wounded. We returned fire as best we could, but the rear of the column could not fire because of our own men in front. For the minute the enemy had fire superiority and while they had us pinned down, they began to move people off to our left flank. One of our machine gunners ran to the front to try and cover a withdrawal. The grass was so tall you couldn’t see to fire unless you stood up, so he got to his feet and began to fire his M60 from the shoulder. The enemy fire slackened and we began to pull back, dragging the wounded. Again the fire picked up and again he stood and fired from the shoulder. The fifth time he did this, a sniper shot him through the right eye. It was just about then that we started receiving heavy fire from our left flank. We were in a bad spot because they could see us from above, but the heavy grass prevented us from seeing them. The crossfire grew intense, but miraculously no one else was injured. Then my rounds arrived, 105mm artillery from Khe Sanh. I began to pound the enemy to our north. Grabbing another radio, I called an 81mm mortar mission to our left. We still couldn’t move since the rounds were falling so close that fragments from our own artillery and mortars were zinging over our heads.”

PFC Leonard Newton, left, with PFC Cecil Rogers. (Photo courtesy of Cecil Rogers)
The platoon was not strong enough to continue the mission alone and was ordered to return to base. Throughout the night, artillery and mortars were fired, to prevent the enemy force from continuing south toward India’s position
Said, Captain Dabney, “I requested from battalion, permission to have a reconnaissance-in-force to 881N with India Company….I asked them to send up a platoon from Mike Company, 3/26, which was then at the Khe Sanh Combat base perimeter, to help man the 881S line while we were gone.” As the mission was being planned India received word that the regiment wanted to insert recon Team Barkwood onto 881N.

The Marines of recon Team Barkwood. (Photo courtesy of Lionel Guerra)
The plan was simple. The Marines were to move out north toward 881N in two mutually supporting columns. India Company’s 1st and 2d platoons were positioned on the left, 3d platoon was on the right augmented by Team Barkwood. Captain Dabney thought contact with the enemy was likely….The plan was simple; the reality of combat is much more chaotic.
The Marines jumped off the following morning, 20 January 1968 at 0500. Corpsman Mike Ray said, “We moved silently down the hill. We slipped down through the waist high elephant grass…through the fog cover. As we went deeper, the bright sun turned into a faint glow. The fog must have been several hundred feet thick.”

Thomas Brindley’s 3d Platoon, photographed through the fog. (Photograph courtesy of Dick Dworsky)
As the fog lifted, Brindley’s 3d Platoon, operating to the right on the eastern ridge, was poised to take a small hill. As the Marines move forward they were hit by RPG and automatic weapons fire. Three Marines were seriously wounded. Captain Dabney ordered Brindley to break off the attack and evacuate the wounded. Brindley reported to India Company’s XO, Lt Richard Foley that he was confident he could take the hill. He was ordered to do so after heavy preparatory fire from mortars and artillery. Cpl Charles Bryan realized that 3d Platoon was understrength and volunteered Team Barkwood as an additional assault element. My dear friend PJ Pagano, then a corporal, was a member of Team Barkwood. He later said,
“It was decided that we would get on line with the infantry and assault the immediate objective. We were on the right and the infantry was on the left. The lieutenant said ‘fix bayonets!’ and we all looked at him at the same time. Recon guys usually don’t have bayonets…but the real reason we looked is because, at least for me, I thought this is it; the real thing! Recon guys usually don’t do walking assaults!”

Corporal PJ Pagano (Photograph courtesy of Bill Messner)
Concurrently, Captain Dabney decided to advance with 1st and 2d Platoons on the western ridge. If they could seize their objective, a small hill, they could provide covering fire for 3d Platoon. Said one Marine,
“We moved out on line and began to climb the hill. About 3/4 of the way up, the enemy waited. When we were 50 meters from them, they pulled out the stopper. We were hit by .50 caliber machine gun fire, AK-47s and RPGs. They were well dug in with two men to a hole. One would fire while the other reloaded and intermittently tossed grenades. We took 15 casualties in the first ten seconds. We kept on moving but then were hit from the right rear by 2 .50 caliber machine guns. We couldn’t move any further and had to fall back. I watched one corpsman dash out 7 times under heavy fire to pull wounded to safety.”
All but two men were wounded. Fromme consolidated his position and directed mortar fire to the front but did not have sufficient strength to hold the position and evacuate the wounded. 2d Platoon, under 2dLt Mike Thomas, set up a landing zone. The NVA were everywhere. A CH-46 helicopter from HMM-262 attempted to land, was shot down, crashed to the west of the LZ, rolled and burst into flames. Marines from both platoons, led by Lt. Mike Thomas, rushed to the crash site and rescued the crew, all of them wounded, some severely.
(According to HMM-262’s command chronology, “while resupplying Hill 881 near Khe Sanh, Capt Ropelewski took a 50 cal hit through the main fuel line. Capt Ropelewski crash landed the burning CH-46 in a nearby zone.” I spoke with the squadron historian, Kreig Loftin, who stated, “Beth - I remember this incident. Curtis Larson was the crew chief. As the burning aircraft approached the crash zone, he and his gunner had to jump out while the aircraft was still 30-40 feet in the air. They both suffered broken ankles, legs and such. Larson showed me his flak jacket afterward. The back panel was completely melted.”)
In the midst of the chaos on the western ridge, Captain Dabney ordered 3d Platoon to renew the attack on the right. The chaos grew. The Marines of 3d Platoon surged up the 30 degree slope behind Brindley. The NVA brought everything they had to bear on the advancing platoon. Wrote Lt Schneider,
“Tom Brindley, the 3d platoon commander, drew his .45 pistol from his holster and, like something out of the movies, began to move his people on the line and move up the hill. It was nothing short of magnificent. They just kept moving- men falling as they went, but everyone else just kept walking shooting from the hip and tossing grenades as they came over the top. By that time, a platoon sergeant and all three squad leaders were casualties. As they stepped over the crest of the hill a sniper shot Tom through the heart.”

Lt Tomas Brindley, right, with Lt Michael Bonacci (Photograph courtesy of the Brindley family)
Brindley’s last words were “Keep low, keep going, stay on line.” Captain Dabney later said that Tom Brindley led his men over the crest of that hill by the sheer force of his example. He added, “the platoon found itself holding the piece of high ground with depleted ammunition stocks and…a lance corporal in command.”
The recon team was in no better position than 3d Platoon. Pagano recalled,
“Almost as soon as we started out a hole opened between us and the infantry on the left. I shouted to Cpl Bryan that I was moving forward to plug the hole. The terrain and elephant grass soon caused us to lose contact with the infantry and each other. We all continued up the hill. We stopped for a moment and an 81mm mortar landed right in front of us. I was hit a second later and (another recon Marine) Lionel Guerra was hit a second after that. We were taking fire from the Marines at the bottom of the hill as well as from the NVA whom we were amongst. I was hit by a Marine bullet. I got on the air without much ceremony and said “Check fire, Check fire. You’re cutting us to pieces up here.” A second later Cpl Bryan called to me to stop the mortar and rifle fire from the friendlies. I told him I had done so and that I was hit…He crawled over and while I was on the radio (now working choppers) he got up on his elbows to rip open a battle dressing for my wound. An NVA no further than six feet away cranked a round at us that passed my left ear, over my chest, and into Bryan’s armpit. I stopped transmitting after a while because my hands and face fell asleep and I became very tired. I had tied a tourniquet but I’d lost a great deal of blood and was still losing some.”

Corporal Charles Bryan
Brindley and Bryan were both killed, along with several others. The platoon had too many casualties to hold the hill and evacuate the dead and wounded. And 3d Platoon reported that Team Barkwood had become separated from the platoon, and was no longer in radio contact.
2d Platoon, which by now had succeeded in evacuating 1st Platoon’s wounded on the western ridge was ordered to the right flank of 3d Platoon to reinforce and to repel counterattacks, to evacuate 3d Platoon’s casualties and to locate the missing recon team. Said Pagano,
“Some new choppers came on station and I heard them talking about Team Barkwood in the past tense. I realized that because I had been off the air for a while they thought I had died. Using the weight of my head to key the set I transmitted, “All stations this net be advised. This station is still up.”
(In the confusion of battle Team Barkwood had lost physical contact with 3d Platoon and actually found themselves -8 Marines- assaulting an NVA company.)
2d Platoon’s Lt Mike Thomas did not survive the afternoon. Thomas had located 5 of the missing Marines. One at a time he hoisted them onto his back and carried them to safety. He found a 6th missing Marines and while carrying him was wounded in the face. He refused medical attention. Aware of the fact that there are still two Marines missing he made an attempt to reach them and was fatally shot.

Lt Mike Thomas (Photograph courtesy of Dick Dworsky)
Brindley, Bryan and Thomas were all awarded Navy Crosses posthumously. Steve Thomas, brother of Mike later said,
“Mike was one of those few people who walked through this world and left large footprints. He touched so many people in his few years. He joined the Marine Corps on this own accord, because there was a job to be done. He told our father, that someone had to do it, so it might as well be him. MIKE HAD PURPOSE IN HIS LIFE!”
India Company now held both ridgelines but with very high casualties. There were 42 casualties including 7 killed in action. Captain Dabney asked for reinforcements but the request was denied. At the time, Captain Dabney was unaware of an extraordinary event that was occurred a world away from India Company. In the early afternoon of 20 January, a white flag appeared at the eastern edge of the airstrip at Khe Sanh Combat Base. La Thanh Tonc, a lieutenant in the North Vietnamese Army surrendered. Immediately interrogated, the disgruntled Tonc reported that all outlying positions around the base would be attacked that night. India was ordered to return to 881S.
Gunnery Sergeant Max Friedlander, who was part of the interrogation-translation team recorded the following:
“Hill881N is presently surrounded. There is a company of sappers deployed in the general area of 881N. This sapper company will be the company used against Hill 861. Once Jill 861 has fallen, the general attack against the Khe Sanh Combat Base will begin.”
That night the enemy hit Khe Sanh and all the outlying outposts EXCEPT 881S. It’s likely the reconnaissance in force mauled the NVA so badly they couldn’t attack that night. Chuck Schneider wrote,
“It’s my opinion, and that of most of the officers here, that our attack that day made them rush their plans for an attack on Hill 861 and Khe Sanh. That next morning at 0430 Khe Sanh took 300 rounds of incoming mortar, rockets and artillery. Hill 861 was assaulted by several hundred NVA. We fired 1400 rounds of 81mm mortar ammo and nearly a thousand rounds of 105mm artillery in their defense…. When the sun rose that morning the hillside was strewn with bodies….All day long I shot artillery at enemy rocket, mortar and anti-aircraft guns in our area. The order of business ever since the 21st has been to keep your head down to keep it from getting shot away.”

Marines on 881S take cover from incoming enemy fire. (Photograph courtesy of David Powell)
Glenn Prentice was right. He was very lucky to see his 20th birthday.
The Marines at Khe Sanh and on the outlying hills were forced to dig in and endure a siege that lasted from 21 January until 17 April. Forty two Marines and corpsmen died on or near the hill, and another 200 were wounded. (Those numbers do not include aviation casualties.) Those who survived endured a 77-day siege that tested them to the limit of their endurance. Said Colonel William Dabney, “By enduring, they triumphed. They were magnificent!”

Marines raise the American flag over Hill 881S. (Photograph courtesy of David Powell)
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Comments
amazing storytelling
Beth,
Amazing storytelling. We are lucky to have such a great chronicler of Marine history!
Bradley
This really hurts to have to
This really hurts to have to relive, No words can describe the feelings that we who lived through this ordeal live with. God Bless all of us who are left, and the families of our friends who came home before us, in black bags.
Don Johnson, India Co. 3rd Marines
Thank you!
Thank you for your service, Mr. Johnson...and for taking the time to leave a comment.
Beth
That's how it was
Wow, Beth, this one strikes home. As you know, I was part of the Mike Company contingent that manned 881South during this action. Along with the whole Battalion staff, we were on top of the command bunker watching and directing supporting fire, including the numerous fixed wing air strikes that turned the tide by finally neutralizing the enemy's .50 caliber machine guns. I still cannot believe how exposed we were up there! We could see all the way into Laos, and therefore, could be observed by most of two NVA divisions. Just one day later, we would have drawn all kinds of enemy fire.
I remember the overwhelming emotional impact as the casualty reports came in. Mike Thomas had succeeded me as the Second Platoon Commander of India, and his death hit me especially hard. I visited him and the other KIAs at the Wall last Friday, as I do every year. These are a tough couple of days for lots of us every year.
Well done, Beth. S/F, Tom
Tom
Tom,
I was thinking about you, Glenn, PJ...and those who didnt survive the 20th...and all of you who did. As you know I have a passion for the history of the siege of 881S...and over the years, I can come to call many of the veterans "friend." I just couldnt let the 44th anniversary slip by without writing something.
I am glad you approve.
Beth
PS
By the way, I am working on an article that will highlight the three Marines who were awarded Navy Crosses that day...Lts Brindley and Thomas, and Corporal Bryan.
Beth
The Siege of Khe Sanh Begins
Beth,
Your writing is so factual, so poignant, that when reading your articles, sometimes I can almost feel and smell "The Nam". That's spooky! Maybe you were really "there" and have come back reincarnated as "Beth Crumley, Marine Corps Historian Extraordinaire"?
Thank you for what you do so well.
S/F
Jake
Reincarnated?
Thank you Jake! So much of my childhood centered on Vietnam. I remember watching the evening news with my father. I remember looking at the LIFE magazines. ( I was only about 6 in 1968 but my parents never censored much of anything.) I remember helping my mother pack "care packages" for my cousins who were in Vietnam. I remember watching the news about the fall of Saigon and the repatriation of the POWS. I suppose it's no wonder that it became my passion and purpose in this life... I am honored to tell the story of Marines in Vietnam.
Beth
A comment
I served with Echo Co. 2/4 3rdMarDiv in Quang Tri province. I was on LZ Russell when we were over run by NVA Sappers. It was a hell of a battle. But as I read what you marines did on 881N, I stop and salute you all, brave men who were tested and fought like marines.
Reading this account made my heart so heavy and a wave of memories of combat in Nam swept over my soul. God bless all of you marines who fought so well. God bless your families. SEMPER FI
Thank you!
Thank you for your service with 2/4...a fine unit with a fine history.
thanks
I'm just an old Artillery guy from down in the Delta (1/11Arty, 9th Div), but I still want to say thank you to these Marine heros. Semper Fi to you guys.
Peter A
Cpt, FA
It was good but were are three other Battalion
I guess all need was Captain Dabney and his men and the rest of us could, just could gone home. S/F
That's an unfair statement!
I don't think that's a fair statement at all. This article was meant to tell the story of the recon-in-force up 881N...nothing more, nothing less. What i wrote is HISTORY that is well-documented, not some flight-of-fancy. It tells the story of those Marines on that given day. It is not, nor is it meant to be, some sweeping story of US Marine Corps operations in Vietnam. It has nothing to do with other battalions or their sacrifices. One cannot tell the entire history of the Corps in Vietnam in one short blog. If you read my other blogs on Vietnam, you will certainly see that I give other units as much respect as I do India and Mike Companies, 3d Battalion, 26th Marines. If you have a suggestions on another operation or another unit i might write about, I am more than happy to consider that suggestion.
Beth
The view from Hill 881 S
I always appreciate your clear, unbiased and straight forward view of Marine Corps history. This article is a perfect example of it. Thank you again, Beth. Looking forward to many more.
H6
I was just reading what you wrote. (Well documented)
Its hard to write ,when a lot of us still alive isn't. Wait a few years, it will be better then. Siege of Khe Sanh was the base.(that was document) Not the hills .Speaking of the hills 950 had a worst of it.
good night
S/F
I never said that 881S was
I never said that 881S was the focus of the siege...but this particular blog is about the beginning of the siege of Khe Sanh which began with the recon-in-force up 881N. (THAT is historically documented, and I am sorry if that bothers you...but you cannot change history.) It does not address the siege of the combat base itself (which is the subject of several lengthy books), or the other hill outposts . this BLOG was specifically about that recon-in-force up 881N, which is what you seemingly have an issue with.
you just implied just go to sleep.
My late daughter would of taken your side . She was hard headed. But guess what. I would not want change history because. I was their and remember the truth the way it was .If you want re-write hostory so be it .From books of B.S. untill you felt our pain you are not one us. A big deferent to writing about something then it is to actually live it. there were 5000 marines at Khe Sanh.
I do like your writing keep it up S/.F
but no free pass me
I do not ask for a free pass
I do not ask for a free pass from you or anyone else. By the end of January, 1968 there were some 6,000 allied forces in the Khe Sanh area. ( That included ARVN units, as well as those on the hill outposts) This blog is about a single company of those Marines, over a two days period...NOT the entire USMC force in the Khe Sanh area, during a 77-day siege.
Your argument is hollow and not at all based on the topic at hand, nor on the FACTS of those two days as they apply to Mike Company, 3d Battalion, 26th Marines.
Beth
And of course, I meant,
And of course, I meant, India, 3d Battalion, 26th Marines.
The Siege of Khe Sanh was the 21 Jan not the 20 that is also
well documented.
read more carefully
Sorry but you need to read more carefully. The assault of Hill 689 ( four kilometers west of Khe Sanh ) began around 2000 on 20 January. 861 was hit shortly after midnight, and the combat base itself around 0530...but there is NO DOUBT that the events of the 20th were the opening moves of the siege...which is WHY the blog is entitled The Siege of Khe Sanh Begins.
Beth
four kilometer is two and half mile just little under
Your on the base or your on the hills what is it ? The hills were taking crap for six months or more before the start of siege . You can't make that statement (there is No doubt it because I say thier is)?
When the Siege started there was no doubt, that is why the 21 is date of record don't try to change history. I think this should end now your not going to change my mind ever or I am going to change yours no point to this anymore.
S/F
You are not interested in
You are not interested in history...only your own perceptions. And by the way, before you tell me i am changing history why dont you check the primary sources AND the official histories of the Marine Corps? It's not called the BEGINNING of the siege for nothing. The 1968 volume US Marines in Vietnam, the OFFICIAL history, refers to 20 January 1968 as the "Opening Moves." And you might want to tell the Marines who were on 861 and 881S that they weren't under siege for those 77 days, since you insist that it was only Khe Sanh Combat Base that was under siege. I am sure they would be more that happy to tell you what life was like for those 77 days....you are right. there is NO point in this.
Beth
Were were you? Is the question?
Were you even born then. You pit Marine against Marine to make your personal point of view, What is it anyways ? I am a shame of you as writer. YOU now have lost my respect you have nothing more to say.I do go to hell.
An idot for sure
Dude - your grasp of reality and most importantly history would be laughable if it wasn't so sad. I was at Khe Sanh, 881S and 861 from January through May 1968. You having been in the general area does not give you credibility. Having the ability of critical thought does. The article you have chosen to belittle is a well crafted piece of historical material talking about a very specific time-frame. It does nothing that diminishes your world of experience.
You're trying to look at history through your own tiny and distorted little STRAW!
Take your meds and go to sleep now.
I am so proud to live to live in your shadow the a hero
of Khe Sanh.
I am speak for six thousand others.( or so ) We hope at lease you remember us, thank you. Captian On our the fortyfour year of the siege Jan 21 1968 please give us our med so may all sleep tonight after all us swallow all your BS. She should write About Khe Sanh after we are all dead and there would be no one to complaining about her .I am so glad I don't have to argue with kid anymore for record go to hell Captian.
idot is saying good night
The Beginning of the Siege of Khe Sanh
Hi Beth, your writing of the facts are awesome and accurate. I was with H&S Company 106mm recoiless rifle team attached to Kilo Company 3/26 on Hill 861 from the middle of December '67 till April around the 18th of '68, when we all left the hill by Chopper to Quang Tri. After the incident described on the 20th of Jan. '68, our Hill 861 was the first to be attacked and our wire breached by the NVA. They had reached the top of the Hill where my 106mm recoiless rifle team were maning the gun when a Gook ran in front of our gun that was mounted on the tripod and threw a satchel charge and it was destroyed but we had taken cover and there were none wounded. We were automatically, at that time, part of Kilo company 3/26 and stayed as grunts for the remainder of our tour. We were being overran with NVA that morning just after midnight, like you said, but we held our hill that morning and thereafter. You are also correct in the time frame when the base got attacked. We were tending to our own casualties, wounded and gathering the dead and wounded NVA that were on and around our hill and we could see and hear the attack take place at the base from the east side of our Hill 861. No matter where we were ALL at, nor what battles we engaged in while our time in Nam, all battles and firefights, no matter how Big or small they were, it was never a picnic. We were trained to do what we needed to do and we did it well. Some have said we lost the WAR in the sense that the Communists prevailed in occupying South Vietnam. I no longer have guilt for anything that I had to do in order to accomplish our missions to keep South Vietnamese people safe and free while we were there. They, whom ever THEY are, who think we lost the war, that is their right to think and say that if they wish, But I was there in the middle of all hell and can say without reserve, that no matter what Marine combat unit you were with in Nam, WE ALL WON EVERY SINGLE BATTLE WE ENGAGED IN. NOW you tell me who lost the war!!! It takes teamwork to do that and with all of the support and determination instilled in us from training and the will to overcome what seemed impossible at the time, we came out VICTORIOUS each and every time. We accomplished our missions, the Politicians are the ones that LOST the war. There is a VERY bad taste in my mouth resulting from the Commander in charge at the time(WM.Westmoreland), not to mention any names, of Khe Sanh, which along with the Politicians back home who decided to abandon Khe Sanh and destroy it After the blood that was shed there and lives lost. What purpose or accomplishments did we gain only to GIVE it to the Communists afterwards. I will never understand the many hills and positions that we all had taken and held for a time, sacrificing all of over 58,000 lost and who knows the many wounded,and then at the end give it all up. We were sent to Vietnam to KICK ASS and TAKE NAMES, and I am proud of doing just that no matter of the unfortunate out come for the South Vietnamese People, WE are NOT to be blamed. We ALL should be PROUD without harboring feelings of any guilt we may be carrying. "WAR IS HELL" as the saying goes, We know, we were there. Let's all be proud of all services that engaged in the Vietnam War, no matter what people may have thought and/or still may think of us. They have NO Clue of what war is like and what effects it has on Veterans for the rest of their lives. ALL WARS ARE HELL. But the fighting men and women of today and the people at home look at present and future Veterans differently and that's a GOOD thing because of the Vietnam War Veterans and the way we were treated. We learn from each war before us and that makes us stronger to survive. We were even shunned by Vets from the VFW and Vets from other wars. So what are they going to do to us, SEND US TO NAM? LOL. I pray for all Vets from ALL wars to be safe and for God to help heal our wounded hearts so we can go on like Marines were trained to do. God Bless US ALL and our families. Thank you Beth for you writings, keep it up. God Bless, (Fast Eddie) Kilo Co. 3/26 Hill 861 Khe Sanh, South Vietnam '67-'68. From Council Bluffs, Iowa
Hill 861 and Hill 881
My brother was in Khe Sanh in early 1968. He was with the 3rd Mar 27th 2Bn. He was wounded on May 10, 1968. He had taken shrapnel to his right thigh while on Hill 881 N. His name is LCPL James A. Acosta, Jr. I am trying to find out more about him while he was in Viet Nam. He was killed July 15, 1968 from a knife wound while on a patrol. Can anyone provide more info to me on 2Bn role in Khe Sanh or was he possibly assigned to another battalion?
Isabel B.
My apologies...I just saw
My apologies...I just saw this. let me see what I can find out....
Beth
Brindley & Thomas
Beth,
The officer class (5-67) of Brindley & Thomas is having a reunion at Quantico this June '12. If your research includes that back ground it might be a good place for you to gather information from those who knew them.
tc
Beth, Thanks for sharing this
Beth,
Thanks for sharing this impassioned account of the Marine sacrifices to occupy those godforsaken hills along the DMZ. I am honored to have served and trained with these two distinguished officer classmates from 5-67. I hope we get to meet you this June. DA-L1
Thank you!
Thank you for the very kind words. I would LOVE to meet the OCS classmates of Brindley and Thomas. Can you give me more information? ( I am loathe to put an email address or phone number on here for obvious reasons.)
Beth
Great work!
Beth,
Another great post- a story very well told!
Mike Grice
Thanks, Mike!!!
Thanks, Mike!!!
Keep Up the Great Work
You chronicled a very important part of the Marine Corps history in a factual and entertaining manner. As the veterans of the Vietnam era grow older, their history has to be preserved for all who were not alive during this terrible time.
Too many people know very little about the incredible courage displayed by these fine people.
not about history
You are right about the person who is making all the unwanted argumentation on this blog.
It is well known that there is a small segment of the Khe Sanh vets community who have made their often accidental presence at Khe Sanh the whole meaning of their life. They are often bitter and jealous sorry to say. And can never accept that other events in that area of Vietnam were just as important as Khe Sanh itself. Please don't waste your valuable time trying to enlighten this person. It is hopeless.They will not listen.
Dave Powell
Terrific History!!
Beth,
Superb chronicle of ONE COMPANY of Marines and their experiences DIRECTLY BEFORE the siege of Khe Sanh began. Your writing does honor to all Marines...keep up the outstanding job telling our story!
And, to my Brother Marine who can't seem to understand WHAT this blog was about, I can only say SEMPER FIDELIS, and engage your brain BEFORE you engage your fingers. This is NOT about the fight on the plateau and KSCB, but one specific set of events. Stand Easy, Marine...take off your pack and relax...smoke 'em if you got 'em - and thanks for your service to our Corps and Country!!!
S/F - Pat
History
Beth I enjoy reading your Articles/Blogs on the USA Marines.
You are a great chronicler of Marine history,keep up the good writing.
DG
Well Done!
Beth,
I have read every one of you blogs and I think that this is one of your best ever!
Semper Fi
Dave
Semper Fi
Bravo Zulu
Another fine piece of work by a dedicated author and historian, well done Beth. Don't let one disgruntled Marine discourage you from telling the story of our Marines in combat, where ever they may have served.
We understand the fact that almost every action we took part in deserves a blog of it's own, however, that could take years and years and could never be documented by one dedicated author like you. Keep telling our story as best you can Beth, no one could ask for anything more from you.
Semper Fi
Dave
Additional Well done
Beth
Let me just add my support for this fantastic tale of heroism, dedication and commitment. There are so many untold stories in Marine Corps history. Through your efforts, more are revealed.
Keep pressing the attack.
Thank you
Walt
Thank you!
My heartfelt thanks to everyone for the kind words and support. ironic thing is that I have written blogs over the months from which i expected negative comments. . It never occurred to me that anyone would have a problem with this one. I thought I woud relate a very factual story of some very fine Marine Corps heroes.
Thanks again!
Beth
Anonymous
Beth,
After reading your story, and to see what "Anonymous" wrote, I really have to question his credability. Anonimity is a wonderful thing for a phony.
J.D. Barber
EG-11
HMM-263
Marble Mountain Air Facility, RVN
Beth
Wow---you did a great job on this one day Beth! I can not belive that some Marines would react in a negitive manner. For me the Siege started on 20 Jan. 68 (On my 19th Birthday)--for some Marines it started in 1967 during "The Hill Fights"--for those at the Base it started on the 21st Jan. 68.
I was an attachment with I 3/26 as a Arty F.O. radio operator---I was lucky to work for all the Marines with in India Company---there were very brave Marines. As were all the Marines on the Base---Each of us did our best. My only regrets that I could not do more! Lt. Thomas & Lt Brindely along with many more Marines give it thier "All". The Marines the knew them best, and are still alive are: Dick Dwroky, Bill Dabney, and OX Foley.
I worked with them when we were assigned to thier platoons during patrols and attacking the NVA--they were truly brave Marines. If it was not for the Marines in India 3/26, The Marines on the Guns, The Marines on the Base/ Hill, and the Marines in the Air Craft I and many other Marines would have not seen the "Sun Rise" on the 21 st of Jan---I would not have a duaghter & son nor five grand-childern---I thank you all for my life
Thank you, Glenn....and happy
Thank you, Glenn....and happy birthday.
their pain, their fears, their tears, and incredible bravery
Beth:
As you have been doing for quite awhile now, you make sure that the world remembers the what the Marines in the northern reaches of I-Corps did; their pain, their fears, their tears, and incredible bravery in some very trying times.
Thank you for your very heart felt efforts in making sure everyone remembers and is aware of the single days, skirmishes or battles in the life of a Marine in Viet Nam. For some we relive much of what we went through there daily or more commonly nightly and those that were not there can only begin to understand, just a little, through words such as yours.
Thank you my friend.
Bob
2nd platoon
I made that hump on 20 Jan. Carried, 3 3.5 WP rounds on a back pack. %0 cal opened up on our left flank about 500 yards outs. Sniper took them out after a WP round was put right into the bunker. Semper Fi. Micharl Pike
The Siege of Khe Sanh Begins-written by Beth
The Beginning of the Siege of Khe Sanh
Hi Beth, your writing of the facts are awesome and accurate. I was with H&S Company 106mm recoiless rifle team attached to Kilo Company 3/26 on Hill 861 from the middle of December '67 till April around the 18th of '68, when we all left the hill by Chopper to Quang Tri. After the incident described on the 20th of Jan. '68, our Hill 861 was the first to be attacked and our wire breached by the NVA. They had reached the top of the Hill where my 106mm recoiless rifle team were maning the gun when a Gook ran in front of our gun that was mounted on the tripod and threw a satchel charge and it was destroyed but we had taken cover and there were none wounded. We were automatically, at that time, part of Kilo company 3/26 and stayed as grunts for the remainder of our tour. We were being overran with NVA that morning just after midnight, like you said, but we held our hill that morning and thereafter. You are also correct in the time frame when the base got attacked. We were tending to our own casualties, wounded and gathering the dead and wounded NVA that were on and around our hill and we could see and hear the attack take place at the base from the east side of our Hill 861. No matter where we were ALL at, nor what battles we engaged in while our time in Nam, all battles and firefights, no matter how Big or small they were, it was never a picnic. We were trained to do what we needed to do and we did it well. Some have said we lost the WAR in the sense that the Communists prevailed in occupying South Vietnam. I no longer have guilt for anything that I had to do in order to accomplish our missions to keep South Vietnamese people safe and free while we were there. They, whom ever THEY are, who think we lost the war, that is their right to think and say that if they wish, But I was there in the middle of all hell and can say without reserve, that no matter what Marine combat unit you were with in Nam, WE ALL WON EVERY SINGLE BATTLE WE ENGAGED IN. NOW you tell me who lost the war!!! It takes teamwork to do that and with all of the support and determination instilled in us from training and the will to overcome what seemed impossible at the time, we came out VICTORIOUS each and every time. We accomplished our missions, the Politicians are the ones that LOST the war. There is a VERY bad taste in my mouth resulting from the Commander in charge at the time(WM.Westmoreland), not to mention any names, of Khe Sanh, which along with the Politicians back home who decided to abandon Khe Sanh and destroy it After the blood that was shed there and lives lost. What purpose or accomplishments did we gain only to GIVE it to the Communists afterwards. I will never understand the many hills and positions that we all had taken and held for a time, sacrificing all of over 58,000 lost and who knows the many wounded,and then at the end give it all up. We were sent to Vietnam to KICK ASS and TAKE NAMES, and I am proud of doing just that no matter of the unfortunate out come for the South Vietnamese People, WE are NOT to be blamed. We ALL should be PROUD without harboring feelings of any guilt we may be carrying. "WAR IS HELL" as the saying goes, We know, we were there. Let's all be proud of all services that engaged in the Vietnam War, no matter what people may have thought and/or still may think of us. They have NO Clue of what war is like and what effects it has on Veterans for the rest of their lives. ALL WARS ARE HELL. But the fighting men and women of today and the people at home look at present and future Veterans differently and that's a GOOD thing because of the Vietnam War Veterans and the way we were treated. We learn from each war before us and that makes us stronger to survive. We were even shunned by Vets from the VFW and Vets from other wars. So what are they going to do to us, SEND US TO NAM? LOL. I pray for all Vets from ALL wars to be safe and for God to help heal our wounded hearts so we can go on like Marines were trained to do. God Bless US ALL and our families. Thank you Beth for you writings, keep it up. God Bless, (Fast Eddie) Kilo Co. 3/26 Hill 861 Khe Sanh, South Vietnam '67-'68. From Council Bluffs, Iowa
My father
Beth,
I just wanted to let you know that I was surprised, while reading your blog, to come across the name of my father. My father is Mike Ray and since he was with I 3/26 I have spent a good deal of time reading about the events surrounding the siege of Khe Sahn. I have never seen him referenced, except for a personal account in the book Khe Sahn: A Siege in the Clouds. Aside from that story and some small tidbits he passed on to me, I have not had much insight into his personal experiences during that time. I understand the difficulty with which some combat veterans divulge their experiences and do not begrudge him that. I followed, proudly, in the steps of my father and became a Hospital Corpsman, serving the majority of my career with and caring for Marines. Thank you for this story,
Aaron Ray
I am glad you found the blog!
I am glad you found the blog! My hiatus is drawing to a close and I am soon to start writing again. Please keep reading....and thanks to your father for his service! he is not forgotten.
R/s,
beth
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